GPLv3 - Update was: Re: [LINK] the slow motion gpl trainwreck

[Deus Ex Machina]

I am not sure how any of your response addresses the point that on a commercial basis,
giving away software to drive other sales works in a domestic market.

given the constant bleeting about the revenue forgone in giving away software can be made 
up by support, I dont see a single example of that in the gaming market
or any other domestic software market for that matter.

perhaps you can give us some example of commercially sucessful projects
that make up lost revenue from giving away software, with support or some other service
in a domestic context?

Vic



Brendan Scott [brendansweb at optusnet.com.au] wrote:
> Deus Ex Machina wrote:
> >Brendan Scott [brendansweb at optusnet.com.au] wrote:
> >
> >>Deus Ex Machina wrote:
> >>
> >
> >while I dont like gpl at all, gpl v2 doesnt have any issues with ASP.
> >
> >if programs start comming out with the gpl anti-ASP virus then commercial
> >entities doing ASP will avoid these program. gpl is not a free licence
> >its heavily biased licence for producing software of limited commercial
> >value. very few bits of software can generate the sort of support needed
> >to replace the software cost. I cant think of a single domestic market
> 
> 
> Well, you know, that doesn't surprise me. 
> 
> 
> >that can. an example of one that cant is the game market, from that 
> >article I
> >posted which was poo-pooed because it wasnt written by a communist.
> 
> 
> This gaming market stuff baffles me.  There are plenty of great open source 
> games (Quake 3 for example).  The articles on open source games are like 
> "well fact X blows our agenda out of the water so we'll concoct reason a 
> for excluding it" - like the contrived - open source games are not 
> "original" - and like all of the FPS out there are not variations on 
> Wolfenstein?  All the RTS/god sims are not variations on Populous?   Give 
> me a break.  (id software by the way, have been very active in using 
> shareware and open source as distribution/marketing channels from the first 
> release of Doom)
> 
> 
> Then, as Danny I think noted, they go from "open source doesn't produce 
> good games" to "governments shouldn't back open source".  Seems like a 
> rather long bow to draw - Gee Vic, are you sure they didn't have an agenda? 
> 
> 
> >the fact is its been a long time already, I think you will be saying the
> >same thing in 10 years time.
> >
> >the desktop score is windows 9, bsd 1, linux 0. so much for gpl.
> >
> >and that is because people need to put food on the table.
> 
> 
> No that was the score 5 years ago.
> 
> 
> Nowadays the growth is:  windows -0.4, linux +0.4 BSD 0.0.
> 
> 
> While I see Novell announcing desktop installations in government these 
> days, I don't see too much from Apple. 
> 
> 
> Brendan
> 
> 
> 
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