[LINK] OOXML contradictions are online
Kim Holburn
kim at holburn.net
Wed Apr 18 03:49:22 AEST 2007
Article here:
http://www.sutor.com/newsite/blog-open/?p=1528
Responses here (zipped pdfs):
http://jtc1sc32.org/doc/recent/JTC001-N-8530.zip
I particularly liked the response from Finland:
> When considering the size, complexity and scope of the Ecma
> submission we must raise
> some concerns about further procedure.
>
> Considering the speed of the Ecma process, the rapidity of the Fast-
> Track process and the
> length (over 6,000 pages) and complexity of the submitted
> specification, we have serious
> doubts whether this or any other NSB can fulfill its obligations
> successfully to review this
> specification and maintain the integrity of the process and the
> reputation of JTC1.
>
> The specification contains within it complete specifications of two
> different vector
> graphics languages (VML and DrawingML), a complete specification
> for the
> representation of mathematical equations (OOMML), a complete
> specification for a
> schema evolution language (Markup Compatability ML) and a complete
> bibliographic
> citation language, in addition to others. We know from analogous
> standards produced by
> the W3C, such as SVG and MathML, that the development and review of
> even a single
> one of these sub-specifications would require an expert group 2-3
> years. But Ecma, in a
> process that did not receive much public visibility, produced a
> specification that includes
> all of these, and their review and approval cycle took less than
> one year.
>
> Therefore, we believe the best way forward is for Office Open XML
> to be removed from
> the JTC1 Fast Track ballot process at this time, and either be
> submitted to a WG for more
> through review, submitted in reasonably-sized subsections, e.g.,
> 500 pages, for normal
> approval, or (preferably) that Office Open XML be harmonized with
> the existing
> ISO/IEC 26300 *Open Document Format*.
>
> In addition the 'Licensing conditions that Microsoft offers for
> Office Open XML'
> (seeJTC001-N-8455-3) explicitly exclude all items merely referenced
> from the licensing
> commitment.
> *To clarify, *Microsoft Necessary Claims* are those claims of
> Microsoft-owned or
> Microsoft controlled patents that are necessary to implement only
> the required portions of
> the Covered Specification that are described in detail and not
> merely referenced in such
> Specification.*
The response from Singapore was exellent too:
> 1. ECMA 376 is inconsistent with and contradicts ISO/IEC 26300:2006
> “Open Document
> Format for Office Applications”
...
> 2. ECMA 376 is inconsistent with and contradicts ISO 8601:2004
> “Representation of
> Dates and Times”
...
> 3. ECMA 376 is inconsistent with and contradicts ISO 639 “Codes for
> the representation
> of names of languages”
...
> 4. ECMA 376 is inconsistent with and contradicts ISO/IEC 8632
> “Computer Graphics
> Metafile”
...
> 5. ECMA 376 conflicts with the General Principles of the ISO/IEC
> Directives, Part 2.
> ECMA 378 cannot be fully understood or implemented by a typical
> computer programmer
> without substantial technical assistance from Microsoft. Numerous
> sections in the
> specification refer to the undocumented behavior of Microsoft
> proprietary products.
...
> 7. Other comments
>
> A standard with 6000+ pages is a clear case of slowing down or
> confusing 3rd-party
> understanding of the content. An implementer of ECMA 376l would
> necessarily need to
> digest and remember a huge amount of information and understanding
> from the 6000+ pages
> before s/he is able to feel sufficiently confident about
> translating the standard’s requirements
> into program codes. As this capability of understanding demands a
> lot more from
> implementers, this indirectly raises the barrier to implementing
> standard, and directly
> contradicts ISO’s mission and objectives.
>
> One possibility on working around this objection is to break up the
> individual sub-standards
> and allow separate standardization process to take place amongst
> the independent sub-
> proposals. With a more specific scope and well-defined terminology
> within the sub-
> proposals, it will allow easier understanding and promotes greater
> utility of the sub-proposals
> to members of ISO, provided the sub-proposals themselves do not
> generate other
> contradictions.
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