HTML 5 - was Re: [LINK] Australia abstains on Office Open XML vote

[Marghanita da Cruz]

Some surprising results about the Browser handling of Alt Text is now at
<http://www.ramin.com.au/linux/html-strawpoles.shtml>

I would like to add other screenshots
of other browsers with images blocked,
of this page <http://www.ramin.com.au/travel-guide/>

Marghanita
Marghanita da Cruz wrote:
> Following on from the earlier thread. The proposed HTML5 standard has 
> caught my
> interest, because it looks likely to include OGG Theora/Vorbis video/audio.
> 
> The connection to the OOXML thread is that Open Office and MSWord can be
> used to generate HTML pages. I am not sure how well OO Style Sheets to 
> CSS works.
> 
> The idea of CSS is to make Web pages device independent so, they could
> theoretically provide the presentational functionality Glen attributes 
> to ODF
> and PDF below. There is still an issue of spreadsheets.
> 
> Before commenting on HTML5, to come upto speed on the w3c published 
> standards, I
> have re-crafted some webpages to be XHTML 1.0 Transitional, XHTML 1.0 
> Strict,
> HTML 4.01 Strict and CSS compliant.
> 
> My understanding is that HTML 4.01 separated  presentation from content and
> XHTML goes further by providing an ability to structuring the content using
> XML/DTDs). Other than the referenced DTD, on my simple webpages there 
> wasn't any
> difference between Strict and Transitional XHTML.
> 
> The crafting is by choice, as since 1997, I have been crafting pages in 
> HTML
> 3.2. It is worth noting, that getting 3.2 code to pass W3C compliance 
> tests is a
> bit more difficult - mainly because the browsers of the time(IE and 
> Netscape)
> set the standard. Ofcourse not all of today's browsers comply.
> 
> But the ultimate test is whether people can read your website, robots 
> can index
> it, rss readers can interpret it etc. So, I was hoping to enlist the 
> help of
> Linkers to test the following pages/sections - on their platform of 
> choice. They
> look ok to me using Knoppix 5.2/IceWeazel 2.0.0.1/IceDove (version 1.5.0.9
> (20061220))
> 
> I would appreciate feedback either to the list or offlist (I will collate
> any feedback I do get and post anonymised data back to Link):
> 
> XHTML 1.0 Transitional (using w3c dtd)
> <http://www.ramin.com.au/travel-guide/>
> Error Messages/Does Layout work or not?:
> Browser version:
> Operating System:
> Device (PC/ScreenReader...):
> 
> XHTML 1.0 Strict (using w3c dtd)
> http://www.ramin.com.au/travel-guide/test.shtml
> Error Messages/Does Layout work or not?:
> Browser version:
> Operating System:
> Device (PC/ScreenReader...):
> 
> HTML 4.01
> <http://www.ramin.com.au/eco-sydney/>
> Error Messages/Does Layout work or not?:
> Browser version:
> Operating System:
> Device (PC/ScreenReader...):
> 
> My working draft of comments on HTML5/Video including samples of
> Ogg/Theora/Vorbis is at
> <http://www.ramin.com.au/linux/web-video-formats.shtml>.
> 
> I would also be interested in who can or can't view/listen to Ogg 
> Theoa/Vorbis.
> CBC Radio are streaming Ogg Vorbis listen in via
> <http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/advocate/2007-09/msg00002.html>
> 
> Marghanita
> 
> Glen Turner wrote:
>> On Wed, 2007-09-05 at 08:26 +1000, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:
> <snip>
>>> It would be of practical use to understand/articulate the 
>>> relationship/role/application of
>>> OOXML,
>>> HTML versions3-5,
>>> PDF...
>>> to ODF
>>
>> PDF is a pre-press representation of pages.
>> HTML is a mark-up language for hypermedia text, tuned to screen display
>> OOXML and ODF are formats for "office documents" -- word processing,
>> spreadsheets, presentations, formulas, etc.
>>
>> If you think about a footnote you'll see how they differ.
>>  PDF is concerned about the position and font.
>>  HTML is concerned about the text and linking to the footnote.
>>  ODF and OOXML are concerned about the semantics of the footnote
>>  (is it auto-numbered, what style sheet, etc)
>>


-- 
Marghanita da Cruz
http://www.ramin.com.au
Phone: (+61)0414 869202