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[rene]

On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 19:07:59 -0800 (PST), David Goldstein wrote:

> I stand by what I said. 

> Unsurprising, but you didn't answer "Separate to what David?"

>And a shame you didn't actually read what I
> said Rene.

Rest assured, I did.

> In the UK it is all voluntary, albeit originally under the threat of
> government regulation and largely still is I think. It's not what is
> being proposed in Australia.

It's different in that regard, I agree. Australian govt's plan is much 
worse because they intend to spend millions of dollars of taxpayer funding 
on a useless system.

> Face reality - the government is going to get involved in some way. And
> if the industry doesn't come up with workable solutions then
> government, rightly or wrongly, will.

Back to the future. The 'industry' is no different from telephone call 
carriers or Australia Post. After over a decade of debates, I've yet to see 
you David, or anyone who shares your views, explain why ISPs should be held 
responsible for the content of communications passing through their 
systems, or attempting to control the activities of people using their 
systems.

> You can stamp your feet and get red in the face and say how wrong it is
> all you like. 

Back to the future (a tired 'argument' on your part David that always was 
and still is like water off a duck's back. That you think other people are 
'red in the face' likely says more about you than people who disagree with 
you.)

>But come up with a workable solution that addresses the
> issues what the government wants. But that hasn't happened in Australia
> apart from the IIA code that addresses
> some of the issues.

There is no 'workable solution' that can be implemented by ISPs.

The only thing that will reduce distribution and access to child sexual 
abuse material on the Internet is adequately funded specialist divisions of 
law enforcement agencies. Labor's so called Cyber-Safety budget reduced the 
AFP's OCSET funding and delayed increases in staff that the former 
Coalition Government had budgetted.

Irene