[LINK] Tony pulls it off!

[Ivan Trundle]

> Well, we do & soon will have significant and certainly widening choices 
> regarding energy savings.

My main beef with all of these schemes and ideas is that it does not address the primary issue: the way in which we consume materials and energy.

It's great to see better efficiencies in all things, but our desire to consume more is the root of the problem.

Our society does not yet frown on profligacy, and so our consumption habits will grow as our population grows.

iT