[LINK] Jailbreaking (was: Inaccessible web sites)

Kim Holburn kim at holburn.net
Thu Feb 18 09:47:44 AEDT 2010


On 2010/Feb/18, at 1:18 AM, Craig Sanders wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 09:51:10PM +1100, Ivan Trundle wrote:
>> Ideas can be stolen as much as chattels.
>
> maybe in a very colloquial moral or ethical sense, but certainly not  
> in
> any legal sense.
>
> not even patents give ownership of *ideas* (much to the chagrin of
> the Everything-Belongs-To-Us lobby). patents give certain short term
> monopoly rights to specific *inventions*.
>
> two points are important there:
>
> 1. patents are for inventions, not ideas.
> 2. they don't grant ownership, just a limited monopoly.
>
> these points are important to bring up because there is an enormous
> amount of corporate propaganda convincing people that copyrights and
> patents have much greater scope than they actually do, as well a
> "natural" similarity to property.
>
>
>> It's simply disagreeable for someone who creates something unique
>> (at their own cost) in order to make a living to have that something
>> reproduced by others with no profit (in whatever guise that might be)
>> to the creator.
>
> it's even more disagreeable for corporations to continually push for
> extensions and additions to copyright and patents.
>
> a short-term limited monopoly for creators is one thing. the perpetual
> ownership AND the "IP" land-grab they're pursuing is outrageous.
>
> if copyright infringement can be likened to stealing as you say, then
> it's merely petty theft - while so-called "intellectual property"  
> itself
> is grand larceny.
>
>
>> There are far more important things in life to worry about.
>
> in the short term, maybe.  in the long term, nope.
>
> one of the things these corporate scumbags want is ownership of  
> genes so
> that they can own the food supply. own as in complete monopoly, not  
> just
> normal producer/consumer trade, so that nobody can grow food without
> licensing their gene patents.
>
> that's pretty bloody important.
>
> it's not just about copyrights of novels. or programs. the whole
> "intellectual property" scam is rotten to the core. it's a tool being
> used to lock up the entirety of human culture AND the natural world as
> the exclusive property of corporations.
>
> if they succeed, the world will be a very unpleasant place for  
> ordinary
> people. even more than it already is for the bulk of the planet's 6- 
> ish
> billion population....and there will be no way out of the trap because
> any action, any idea will already be owned.


Monsanto patents the pig:
http://www.greenpeace.org/international/news/monsanto-pig-patent-111
http://www.youtube.com/watch#videos=dJircbKDGM8&v=egiizDvExrY

The aftermath:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8002503.stm

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