[LINK] Shirky: Murdoch's Times paywall is pretty much like all the other paywalls

[David Goldstein]

It's interesting that Murdoch gets bagged for putting The Times and Sunday Times 

behind a paywall, yet Fairfax did it some time ago for the AFR.

But what seems interesting about paywalls such as Times/Sunday Times/AFR is that 

from my reading/recollction newspaper sales go down when the online version goes 

completely behind a paywall.

The AFR's sales have been on a downwards spiral in recent years and could it be 
a case of out of sight out of mind when newspapers are completely behind a 
paywall.

Next cab off the rank with a version of a paywall appears to be the New York 
Times, I believe sometime in 2011.

David




----- Original Message ----
> From: David Goldstein <wavey_one at yahoo.com>
> To: Jan Whitaker <jwhit at melbpc.org.au>
> Sent: Wed, 10 November, 2010 10:04:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [LINK] Shirky: Murdoch's Times paywall is pretty much like all the 
>other paywalls
> 
> It's interesting that Murdoch gets bagged for putting The Times and Sunday 
>Times 
>
> behind a paywall, yet Fairfax did it some time ago for the AFR.
> 
> But what seems interesting about paywalls such as Times/Sunday Times/AFR is 
>that 
>
> from my reading/recollction newspaper sales go down when the online version 
>goes 
>
> completely behind a paywall.
> 
> The AFR's sales have been on a downwards spiral in recent years and could it be 
>
> a case of out of sight out of mind when newspapers are completely behind a 
> paywall.
> 
> Next cab off the rank with a version of a paywall appears to be the New York 
> Times, I believe sometime in 2011.
> 
> David
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Jan Whitaker <jwhit at melbpc.org.au>
> > To: link at anu.edu.au
> > Sent: Tue, 9 November, 2010 9:39:42 PM
> > Subject: Re: [LINK] Shirky: Murdoch's Times paywall is pretty much like all 
>the 
>
> >other paywalls
> > 
> > At 09:26 PM 9/11/2010, Kim Holburn you wrote:
> > > > The classic description of a commodity market uses milk. If you 
> > > own the only cow for 50 miles, you can charge usurious rates ...
> > 
> > I heard an interview with the publisher or editor of the Guardian. 
> > They were talking about the News paywall and how it didn't work the 
> > way they thought it would. Paper sales went down. Paywall subs were 
> > something under 20,000. But the Guardian has something like 
> > 16,000,000 readers. Which do you think advertisers would buy into?
> > 
> > 
> > 
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