[LINK] ACMA Website Survey, Privacy & Google
Roger Clarke
Roger.Clarke at xamax.com.au
Wed Apr 13 12:52:26 AEST 2011
At 11:54 +1000 13/4/11, Stephen Edgar wrote:
>I just visited http://acma.gov.au to report a company for
>unsolicited spamming and noticed a link to 'Complete our website
>redesign survey' ...
>And the site we are taken to is... drumroll... Google spread sheets!
>https://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?formkey=dGx3SWVlbzRDLUJjdlBfQk9QeUdaLXc6MA
> ... Our privacy policy is here: http://bit.ly/acmaprivacy
I'm in the middle of a study of ISPs' Terms of Service, with
particular reference to the scope for service-providers to exploit
users' data.
Even if ACMA provided some specific undertakings (which it doesn't,
because the link leads to a [sub-]standard general statement), those
undertakings wouldn't bind Google. It's Google's Terms that matter.
I went to:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/
which flicked me to:
https://www.google.com/accounts/ServiceLogin?service=writely&passive=1209600&continue=http://docs.google.com/&followup=http://docs.google.com/<mpl=homepage
At the bottom is 'Terms', which points to:
http://www.google.com/google-d-s/intl/en/terms.html
which points to 5 pages, of which 'Terms of Service' points to:
http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS?hl=en
The extract below shows that anyone who types into a Google Docs
spreadsheet grants Google a "a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide,
royalty-free" right to "reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish,
publicly perform, publicly display and distribute" anything that they
type in.
There is a nominal limitation, phrased as "for the sole purpose of
enabling Google to display, distribute and promote the Services".
But on careful examination that gives them free rein, because
prettymuch anything that they might look to do with your data can be
justified by those words. For example, it doesn't say 'for the
purposes of providing the service to you', i.e. they can use your
content to promote the services to other people.
Moreover, the nominal limitation appears to be over-ridden by an even
more open expression that applies to disclosures to other parties.
You grant Google to "make such Content available to other companies,
organizations or individuals with whom Google has relationships for
the provision of syndicated services, and to use such Content in
connection with the provision of those services".
The terms 'relationships', 'syndicated services' and 'provision'
create enough scope that prettymuch any disclosure could be justified.
The tentative conclusions in my working paper are that "[Google]
gives [itself] very substantial rights to use private and restricted
data, and asserts unilateral power to change the Terms, without
notice and with immediate effect, and has no obligation to delete
data":
http://www.rogerclarke.com/EC/IU-SPE-1012.html#Res
http://www.rogerclarke.com/EC/IU-SPE-A2-Google.html#Docs
Extract on 13 April 2011, from http://www.google.com/accounts/TOS?hl=en:
11. Content license from you
11.1 You retain copyright and any other rights you already hold in
Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the
Services. By submitting, posting or displaying the content you give
Google a perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, and
non-exclusive license to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate,
publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute any
Content which you submit, post or display on or through, the
Services. This license is for the sole purpose of enabling Google to
display, distribute and promote the Services and may be revoked for
certain Services as defined in the Additional Terms of those Services.
11.2 You agree that this license includes a right for Google to make
such Content available to other companies, organizations or
individuals with whom Google has relationships for the provision of
syndicated services, and to use such Content in connection with the
provision of those services.
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Roger Clarke http://www.rogerclarke.com/
Xamax Consultancy Pty Ltd 78 Sidaway St, Chapman ACT 2611 AUSTRALIA
Tel: +61 2 6288 1472, and 6288 6916
mailto:Roger.Clarke at xamax.com.au http://www.xamax.com.au/
Visiting Professor in the Cyberspace Law & Policy Centre Uni of NSW
Visiting Professor in Computer Science Australian National University
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