[LINK] RFC: Negative Assessment of Mozilla BrowserID
Roger Clarke
Roger.Clarke at xamax.com.au
Wed Jul 20 09:55:07 AEST 2011
I had a call from, and an interesting chat with, Mozilla's Alex
Fowler (policy) and Ben Adida and Dan Mills (tech leads on the
privacy team).
They believe they have a better story to tell than I have been able
to extract from their document.
In particular:
- signing keys are per-email-address and short-lived (hrs to a day)
and hence of quite limited use as a means of correlating traffic
- they have ideas on how to encourage and support the use of
'single-site email-addresses'
- the database-server approach is intended only as a boot-strapping
mechanism, and the authentication mechanism is intended to be
implemented in the browser. (To be fair, their page does say this,
but I wanted to undermine the idea of sustaining the server)
They said they're working on other privacy-protective features for
the browser family. But they prettymuch accepted my statement that
they're pushing a big rock up a steep hill, given how inherently
marketer-friendly and consumer-hostile the current versions of
Firefox have become.
They say they think they need a more privacy-oriented explanation of
the initiative. I encouraged separate papers for commercial
web-sites, for intermediaries and technology providers, and for
consumers. (Naturally, sceptics in all three camps would want to
read all three, but this way the pitch to each interest-group would
be clear).
They intend an open call to privacy advocates for feedback, and I
stressed the need to get a wide-enough list. Alex mentioned CDT, and
is ex-EFF. I mentioned EPIC, PI and APF, and specifically referred
to the valuable feedback I'd had on the PI Advisory Board list.
We'll see.
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Roger wrote on Sun, 17 Jul 2011 16:54:06 +1000
>Constructively negative comments are urgently sought on the
>following exposure draft:
> Reactions to Mozilla's BrowserID Proposal
> http://www.rogerclarke.com/II/BrowserID-1107.html
Roger wrote on Tue, 19 Jul 2011 08:39:30 +1000
>Mozilla want to have a yarn with me.
>I've previously said very negative things about Mozilla's recent browsers:
http://mailman.anu.edu.au/pipermail/link/2010-March/087411.html
http://mailman.anu.edu.au/pipermail/link/2010-March/087415.html
http://mailman.anu.edu.au/pipermail/link/2010-November/090443.html
>
>But I've never done a solid analysis of their features, in order to
>be specific about their anti-consumer nature.
>Can anyone point me to any such analyses?
>Re HTML 5 specifically, there's the NYT article of Oct 2010:
http://mailman.anu.edu.au/pipermail/link/2010-October/089788.html
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