[LINK] ABC Inside Business - "Big Step Forward"

[Richard Chirgwin]

On 27/06/11 12:43 AM, Tom Koltai wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: link-bounces at mailman.anu.edu.au
>> [mailto:link-bounces at mailman.anu.edu.au] On Behalf Of Rik Harris
>> Sent: Sunday, 26 June 2011 11:16 PM
>> To: Richard Chirgwin
>> Cc: link at mailman.anu.edu.au
>> Subject: Re: [LINK] ABC Inside Business - "Big Step Forward"
>>
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>> Actually, ownership of the lead-in conduits (lead-ins to
>> individual properties) will transfer to NBN Co as NBN Co uses
>> them (see
>> http://www.telstra.com.au/abouttelstra/media-centre/announceme
>> nts/telstra-signs-nbn-definitive-agreements-2.xml).
>>
>> regards,
>> rik. [Telstra employee; not involved with NBN; all
>> information already in public domain]
> So, the ownership of the copper that runs across the private land of the
> subscriber, for which there is no right of way or lease arrangement with
> the homeowner is now being sold to the NBN ?
Nope. The ownership of the copper is not transferring to NBN Co. The 
copper will cease to exist, decomissioned by Telstra. The lead-in refers 
to the one- or two-inch conduit through which the copper travels.
> Sorry... Can you quote the legislation that authorised this transaction
> that would appear to overthrow and be an encroachment on the traditional
> rights to use and homeowners title deed evidence of possession of
> Australian homes ?
No. You can't provide any legislation whose sole purpose is to give the 
lie to urban myths.
> Surely if Australians have lost the right to a piece of their front
> yards, they should be in some way be compensated?
No. If you don't want a connection, you don't have to sign up. If you 
want a connection, a lead-in is necessary. That's the situation today on 
the copper; the only thing that changes is the identity of the provider.
> Or does lead-in only cover the conduit and the first 300 mm of copper ?
> In which case, I have a pile of copper wire and some pvc conduit I could
> sell to the NBN for a lot cheaper than 4.5 billion.
It covers no copper at all.

RC

> I'm sorry folks, I don't actually see any forward momentum here.
>
> I see money changing hands from Telstra to the Future Fund
> > From the Future Fund to the NBN
> > From the NBN to Telstra.
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> I don't see any valuable assets like Cable (that can deliver high speed
> broadband today) changing hands.

> I see the USO obligation to maintain
> the copper slipping away...

> (resulting in a scenario that Americans are
> all too familiar with... "Sorry, the piece of Copper from the Kerb to
> the property line is all we look after, You'll have to call your local
> Clec for the section from the Kerb to the Central Office. Unless you
> have your long distance with us, in which case we can send out a
> technician, but if he finds that the fault isn't on our local CLEC's
> segment you could be up for an additional cost. Would that be okay with
> you sir ?"
>
> In the major streets of Budapest, one can find Men with empty cardboard
> boxes on which sit three half wall nut shells and a pea.
>
> This NBN game is starting to look a lot like those colourful Gypsy
> characters in Budapest. In Hungary, the Rendorseg [police] pretty much
> shut down these games whenever they become glaringly obvious. I would
> like to know who is their equivalent in Australia ?
>
> TomK
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