[LINK] The Red Flag Act

[Roger Clarke]

A nice story, and *some* of it checks out  (:-)}

http://www.smh.com.au/news/New-South-Wales/Lightning-Ridge/2005/02/17/1108500197562.html
http://www.ausemade.com.au/diary/0001/010907gs.htm


At 1:46 +1000 28/6/11, Rachel Polanskis wrote:
>When i lived in the outback, I had the pleasure of living in the 
>Coogee Beach tram
>for 6 months at the Tram-otel.     I was ultimately kicked out for a 
>situation that involved
>hundreds of redback spiders and later an incident with a synthesizer 
>and a PA system.
>
>The fire was caused by neither and was not my fault, either.   A 
>controlled demoltion
>of a tram is possible if you use the right frequency and apply enough gain.
>
>Suffice to say, I have seen the Sydney trams and they are wonderful.
>
>How they got where they did is a story for another time, unless some really
>wants to know and I will tell it!
>
>
>rachel
>
>--
>rachel polanskis
><r.polanskis at uws.edu.au>
><grove at zeta.org.au>
>
>On 27/06/2011, at 21:09, "Michael Skeggs mike at bystander.net" 
><mskeggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>  I expect in a few years when petrol is dearer ($8 a liter by 2018 is
>>  the CSIRO upper projection) there will be a resurgence in trams. When
>>  I lived in Glebe you could occasionally spot the tracks still in place
>>  where a pothole had revealed them. Restoring trams/light rail with
>>  Melbourne style road sharing would be pretty trivial, certainly
>>  cheaper than some sort of electrical battery powered bus.
>>  Probably, though, in NSW the compressed natural gas fueled buses will
>>  get the nod. There is still plenty of gas to be had, and they seem to
>>  work OK, judging from the ones I have ridden (although I confess I
>>  don't know if they have an adequate range, compared to diesel).
>>  Regards,
>>  Michael Skeggs
>>
>>  On 27 June 2011 20:39, Kim Holburn <kim at holburn.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>  On 2011/Jun/27, at 2:12 PM, Marghanita da Cruz wrote:
>>>>  I started to glaze over a the "plight" of the car... here is 
>>>>another perspective:
>>>>>  Closure
>>>>>  The Sydney tram system was Australia's largest, at 290 km, in 
>>>>>1933. But because the system consisted of several isolated 
>>>>>sections, it was relatively easy to close it down, piece by 
>>>>>piece. This process started in 1939 with the Manly system. The 
>>>>>last Pitt St. and Castlereigh St. tram ran in 1957 on a Saturday 
>>>>>night at 1 am. Within minutes of the tram's run the overhead 
>>>>>wires were pulled down, and the next morning (a Sunday) the 
>>>>>tracks were paved over, to ensure there would be no return of 
>>>>>the trams even if the buses should prove inadequate. This shows 
>>>>>pretty clearly that there were forces at work other than just 
>>>>>desire for efficiency here.
>>>>>  By 1958 the North Shore system was closed, and in 1961, 100 
>>>>>years after the first tram had run, the last line closed.
>>>>>  The replacement buses were loss-making from the start, and 
>>>>>within just a few years the City Council was starting to regret 
>>>>>the loss of the trams, but it was too late. In 1975, a proposal 
>>>>>was floating to re-instate a tram loop from Central Station to 
>>>>>Circular Quay along Pitt and Castlereigh Streets. In 1995, this 
>>>>>proposal has re-appeared, attached to the Darling Harbour LRV 
>>>>>plan.
>>>>  <http://www.railpage.org.au/tram/sydhist.html>
>>>
>>>  I don't remember Sydney trams but when I was growing up near 
>>>North Sydney there were double decker electric trolley buses. 
>>>They had a depot in Falcon street which was there for years after 
>>>the buses had gone but was eventually pulled down.
>>>
>>>  --
>>>  Kim Holburn
>>>  IT Network & Security Consultant
>>>  T: +61 2 61402408  M: +61 404072753
>>>  mailto:kim at holburn.net  aim://kimholburn
>>>  skype://kholburn - PGP Public Key on request
>>>
>>>
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