[LINK] Mobile Phone for USO - Was NBN low income scheme

Tom Koltai tomk at unwired.com.au
Thu Oct 27 08:00:50 AEDT 2011


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> [mailto:link-bounces at mailman.anu.edu.au] On Behalf Of Ross Kelso
> Sent: Wednesday, 26 October 2011 9:20 PM
> To: link at anu.edu.au
> Subject: [LINK] Mobile Phone for USO - Was NBN low income scheme
> 
> 
> Tom Koltai said:
> 
> "In most of Metropolitan Australia (93% of the
> population), the Power Grid now has very few blackouts 
> necessitating the use of Standby or backup power options. 
> 
> In Country areas where Brownouts and lightning outages are 
> more commonplace, the NBN will be delivered by high frequency 
> microwave." ================ This is a gross simplification.  

Actually, it's more logistical common sense. With the exception of LGA's
represented by crucial independents, the Microwave Solution will take up
the installation slack. E.G. Darwin is more Rural than Townsville or
Armidale (Say What ???)

The NBN will take ten years to roll out.
Option A below requires 3 k installations per day to complete the job.
Option B below requires 2 k installations per day to complete the job.

Considering it took Telstra and Optus 11 years to bypass 1.5 million
homes for Coax and HFC I personally think Option C will be the likely
winner for Oz. (Option C ? - Not on the table yet but I am pretty sure
the only way they can deliver to 3K per day is via wireless something.) 

Option A
8200000 Number of Dwellings in Australia (Now)
7626000 93% or Expected FTTH Dwellings Coverage
365.25 Days Per Annum
104 Sat/Sun
3 Xmas/Box day/New Years Day
2 Easter
1 Anzac
1 Au Day
1 QB
1 Labor Day
113 Holidays Per Annum
252.25 Working Days
2522.5 10 Years
3023.191278	Required NBN Installations per Day

OR:

Option B
5409108 Number of Metro GNAFS in Australia (Now)
5030470 93% or Expected FTTH Dwellings Coverage
365.25 Days Per Annum
104 Sat/Sun
3 Xmas/Box day/New Years Day
2 Easter
1 Anzac
1 Au Day
1 QB
1 Labor Day
113 Holidays Per Annum
252.25 Working Days
2522.5 10 Years
1994.240016	Required NBN Installations per Day

> Not all so-called 'Country' areas will receive NBN service by 
> microwave and not all metropolitan areas (receiving the NBN 
> by fibre) have a reliable power supply service.  In the 
> latter case, you only have to look at outer-metropolitan 
> areas of many cities which are more likely to have tree-lined 
> streets, often merging into semi-rural areas, where come a 
> severe storm (let alone a cyclone) the trees will fall across 
> the power lines and outages will last for days as the 
> authorities won't be able to cope with the widespread damage. 
>  Also think bush fires.  The Hills District of Sydney is a 
> prime example; I live on the Gold Coast - just 5km from the 
> sea - with Foxtel HFC cable outside - but dread the likely 
> severe storms this summer, also bush fires.  Outer metro 
> areas typically have power line routes without redundancy.  
> BUT THEN consider aerial cabling of the NBN and the problems 
> immediately magnify.  Oh, and don't forget tropical places like To!
>  wnsville: INNER metropolitan streets there already have the 
> NBN strung aerially and cyclone Yasi brought it down only 
> this year.  The power was out for a number of weeks!

I lived in Darwin for almost 2 decades over which time I  observed the
regular wet season afternoon lightning storm blackouts decline and
eventually almost vanish to the extent that by  1992-1993 Wet season in
Coconut Grove Darwin, I believe I can count on one hand the number of
minutes we were without power.

NTEC/PAWA managed the blackout problems by moving some powerlines
underground in problem areas, chopping down mahogany trees in other
areas and created redundancy in the suburban grid  so that if a tree did
cause a problem only a single transformer zone was affected for a
limited time.

In the Sydney Suburbs I note that the tree line when encroaching on
powerlines is now trimmed/lopped and over the last three years I have
noted only a few small brownouts that did not negatively impact digital
equipment.

> 
> Ross Kelso
> http://www.noaerialnbn.org 

The fact that the highly qualified people at the NBN have ignored the
fifteen years of experience that Optus have garnered with their badly
thought out (amazingly expensive to maintain,) aerial HFC installation
is the real sadness.

34 Billion should deliver a quality product. Not one that makes us look
like an emerging nation with no pride in the appearance of our homes and
neighbourhoods.
(That has nothing to do with batteries, I just happen to be of the
opinion that a wireless solution is preferable to an aerial Fibre
Solution.)

> 
> (PS: The Marysville (Vic.) bush fire damage was so severe and 
> power outage so prolonged that even the mobile phone 
> batteries went flat - they couldn't be re-charged!  This sort 
> of thing could happen again in the Sutherland Shire of Sydney 
> which has a history of bush fires and power line routes 
> without redundancy on the fringes.) 

So in that case, it makes no difference whether the NBN is battery
backed up or not because,

A) the computers wont have power to operate.
B) the Television STB's wont have power to operate
C) the air conditioners wont have power to operate so everyone will just
go to the beach.

TomK




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