[LINK] Now that's secure - I guess

[Noel Butler]

On Tue, 2012-04-03 at 10:12 +1000, Karl Schaffarczyk wrote:


> The ISP should also supply webmail, 


Don't know of any decent ISP that does not offer it.


> and permit alternatives such as Gmail
> sending via their SMTP server too.


WTF? I hope I read that wrong, must have, ok, next...


> I understand the extent of tech-support pain a system like this would be to
> implement, but could you imagine how much less spam would be sent if this
> could be implemented worldwide?


Yes, sadly because the vast majority of Internet users are not tech
savvy and have enough trouble configuring a mail client for normal use.

In fact, I'd go so far as to say majority are clueless, even blaming
their ISP's when their windows wont work, I'm sorry, when did the ISP
world buy out microsoft?  *sigh* and some people take extreme offence at
being told, we provide Internet services, we give you settings to allow
you to use our facilities blah blah blah, why is it an ISP's job to
teach people how to use another companies bloody software, you chose to
use outlook, you learn it or ask the people who made it!


> It would also provide a high level of convenience for the modern road
> warrior. Laptops, iPads etc wouldn't need to be reconfigured every time a
> person switched disparate providers - hotspots, cellular broadband,
> institutional networks etc.


Most decent ISP's already provide this, something mobile broadband
helped kickstart for those that did not.


> So if Pacific/Hunterlink is providing auth-SMTP with at least one port 25
> alternative, then I support their decision to do so, and cannot call it
> "broken"



% telnet smtp.pacific.net.au 587
Trying 125.255.95.1...
Connected to mail-pacific.pacific.net.au.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 mailproxy4-syd3.pacific.net.au ESMTP Gday mate

I'm sure pacnet don't offer submission access for sake of it, so a
certain persons problem is likely solved, if he wanted it to be.


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