[LINK] Propaganda, manipulation and the abuse of media [Was: IPA, astroturfing and fantsy themes/Science under attack]

[Frank O'Connor]

So, when we attack your warped logic and arguments it's 'ad hominem', but when you retaliate with Luddite comments and the like it's all part of considered argument and rational debate. I love your logic Tom ... It's so magnificently and absurdly self-referential and illogical.

As for the quote and comments which follow your wounded complaint ... I'm sorry but I don't see how they advance your already confused and illogical argument.

I'll give you one even the legendary Koltai intellect should be able to take advantage of, when I say I'm totally non-plussed by the point and direction of your arguments, Tom Old Son. I must be getting old.

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On 21/02/2012, at 9:07 PM, "TKoltai" <tomk at unwired.com.au> wrote:

> 
> In the face of such overwhelmingly obviously factual rebuttal, I am
> forced to concede that aiming for the man is always easier than aiming
> for the ball.
> 
> Aiming for the ball takes skill, knowledge dexterity and something you
> two obviously know little about, Passion for your topic.
> 
> Factually, Frank and David, your empty personal ad hominen attacks logic
> is unfortunaely refutable, but the emotive fight or flight response is
> so highly charged on this issue, that you are unable to open your minds
> to contra-evidence.
> 
> Evidence researched by leading Australian Climatologists.
> 
> Quote/ [From:
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/sn/tvradio/programmes/horizon/dimming_trans.shtml}
> 
> In Australia two more biologists, Michael Roderick and Graham Farquhar
> were intrigued by another paradoxical result - the world-wide decline in
> something called the pan evaporation rate.
> 
> PROF GRAHAM FARQUHAR (Australian National University): It's called pan
> evaporation rate because it's evaporation rate from a pan. Every day all
> over the world people come out in the morning and see how much water
> they've got to add to a pan to bring it back to the level it was the
> same time the morning before. It's that simple.
> 
> NARRATOR: In some places agricultural scientists have been performing
> this rather dull daily task for more than a hundred years. PROF GRAHAM
> FARQUHAR: The long-term measurements of pan evaporation are what gives
> it its real value.
> 
> DR MICHAEL RODERICK (Australian National University): And the fact that
> they're doing the same thing day in day out with the same instrument.
> 
> PROF GRAHAM FARQUHAR: Yeah, they deserve a medal. Each of them.
> 
> DR MICHAEL RODERICK: Yeah.
> 
> NARRATOR: For decades, nobody took much notice of the pan evaporation
> measurements. But in the 1990s scientists spotted something very
> strange, the rate of evaporation was falling.
> 
> PROF GRAHAM FARQUHAR: There is a paradox here about the fact that the
> pan evaporation rate's going down, an apparent paradox, but the global
> temperature's going up. 
> /Quote.
> 
> So there it is. Concrete evidence that pollutant particles in the air is
> actually causing a cooling of the planet and not a warming.
> 
> Research by leading researchers, not on big company corporate payrolls.
> 
> Vis, the 100 years of Pan evaporation data by ordinary Australia
> farmers.
> 
> Wow. Must be more of 'dem luddites...
> 
> In closing, I regret to say that there are many experiences missing from
> my life and that my experiments with mind altering substances didn't
> actually pass THC and ridiculous quantities of alcohol.
> 
> I'm almost happy to leave it there, but should you not publicly withdraw
> your nasty vindictive personal attack accusing me of consuming hard
> drugs, I suggest modst emphatically that your legal bill over the next
> few months will dramatically increase.
> 
> On the topic of killing all Koltai's, you might like to know that
> millions of Hungarian Jews changed their name in 1939-1944 to Koltai to
> escape the exact fate that you outlined for me.
> 
> In fact, my 13 year old father's Aunty Janka changed his name to Koltai
> to save him from the Gas Camps. So your wish was almost granted.
> 
> 
> I know withdraw from the field on this topic and leave it to the
> bullies.
> 
> 
> Tom Koltai.
>