I really like some of the things he says. Jacque Fresco. At 96, he's not in bad shape: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3t0kCyHeO70&feature=bf_next&list=ULuSU9MohNRj0 -- Kim Holburn IT Network & Security Consultant T: +61 2 61402408 M: +61 404072753 mailto:kim at holburn.net aim://kimholburn skype://kholburn - PGP Public Key on request