[LINK] Aggregator agrees deal to pay for UK online news links

[sylvano]

Thanks

Loads fine for me still, on my phone. Interesting.

Sylvano

On 18/05/2012, at 10:24 AM, Jan Whitaker <jwhit at melbpc.org.au> wrote:

> Hi Sylvano
> neither of those links worked for me. The first 
> never appeared and the second said the page wasn't there.
> 
> It's an interesting assertion that links are 
> copyrighted material. I wanted to learn more 
> about that comment. Finally got it via a proxy 
> (below for others' benefit). It appears that the 
> aggregator was scraping and selling what they scraped.
> Jan
> 
> 
> The Copyright Tribunal has delivered a final 
> decision bringing to an end a costly battle over 
> the right of news aggregators to exploit online content.
> 
> The decision means that news monitoring company 
> Meltwater now accepts paying charges to sell on 
> links and headlines which it has scraped from UK news websites.
> 
> The legal battle dates from January 2010 when the 
> Newspaper Licensing Agency first sought to impose 
> licences on companies which sell on aggregated 
> news headlines to paying clients.
> 
> The Copyright Tribunal ruling will allow the NLA 
> to impose its planned fees backdated between 2010 
> and 2012 and new – slightly lower than planned – fees after 2012.
> 
> The fees are around £10,000 for the aggregator 
> (ie Meltwater) and then 5p per link for the end 
> user, or a fixed annual fee depending on the size 
> of company. (JW emphasis added)
> 
> The legal battle, pursued through the civil 
> courts and the Copyright Tribunal, is thought to 
> have cost the NLA and Meltwater around £2m each.
> 
> The latest development means the UK newspaper 
> industry can start collecting fees from online 
> media monitoring worth around £1m to £1.5m a year.
> 
> But more significantly for the future of UK 
> journalism, it upholds the principle that online 
> news headlines and links are copyright material.
> 
> This could pave the way for the UK press to take 
> a tougher line in future with free news aggregators such as Google.
> 
> NLA won its case at the Appeal Court in 2011 but 
> Meltwater is still set to take one aspect of it 
> to the Supreme Court. It argues that aggregation 
> should be covered by the copyright exception for 
> the temporary copying of internet files. (not 
> sure that would fly since the temporary was put 
> there for the technical needs of ISPs and 
> temporary caching on end user equipment IIRC)
> 
> 
> From February:
> http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?storycode=48761
> 
> Ruling allows press to charge online news aggregators
> 
> 15 February 2012
> 
> By 
> <https://s9-us2.ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/proxy?ep=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&epile=4q6n41784q6n41314q5467774q4638794r7935725n586o3q&edata=f70170e5e60419aa4cfda5ffb668da0c>Dominic 
> Ponsford
> 
> The Copyright Tribunal has upheld the right of 
> the British newspaper industry to charge those 
> who aggregate online content and then sell it on to third parties.
> 
> In the short-term it means that the British press 
> can gather licensing fees which have been 
> estimated at between £1m and £2m a year to those 
> who aggregate online content and then sell it on to paying customers.
> 
> 
> 
> At 05:01 AM 18/05/2012, sylvano you wrote:
>> "But more significantly for the future of UK 
>> journalism, it upholds the principle that online 
>> news headlines and links are copyright material."
>> 
>> http://www.pressgazette.co.uk/story.asp?sectioncode=1&storycode=49340&c=1
>> 
>> (Source: http://twitter.com/evgenymorozov/status/203195242596417537)
>> 
>> Regards
>> Sylvano
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