[LINK] Turnbull's NBN

[Jim Birch]

I want to see a 25 year comparative costing on three options.

1.  The current FTTP NBN
2.  The FTTN NBN with maintenance of the copper for 25 years.
3.  The FTTN NBN with maintenance of the copper for say 15 years and then
the re-installation of FTTP NBN when it becomes blindingly obvious to
everyone that that's what should have been done in the first place.




On 9 April 2013 15:36, Kim Holburn <kim.holburn at gmail.com> wrote:

>
> On 2013/Apr/09, at 2:21 PM, tomk wrote:
>
> > On 9/04/2013 12:21 p.m., Frank O'Connor wrote:
> >> ... Seems pretty much like Turnbull's Australian Republic.
> >>
> >> Remember that? The Republic you have where the politicians are the
> one's who get to appoint the President, and the electorate has nothing to
> do with it? The one that the 60-65% of the Australian people who were in
> favour of a Republic couldn't and wouldn't vote for? That Australian
> Republic?
> >>
> >> Now he proposes an FttN NBN that costs $30 billion, that offers the
> same performance for 90% of the Australian public as they're currently
> getting over copper, that has maintenance overheads with its VDSL design
> that will in all likelihood cause operating costs to blow out like crazy,
> that means that the satellite subscribers will effectively be getting a
> better AVERAGE bandwidth than fixed line subscribers (I want satellite now
> ... unless you can ensure that the VDSL node is right outside my door,
> Malcolm) ... and did I mention that this is gonna cost $30 billion?
> >>
> >> FOR WHAT? I mean, you could simply not spend anything, forego the NBN
> completely, and 90% of subscribers wouldn't know the difference.
> >>
> >> This is a late April Fools Day Turnbull press release, right?
> >>
> >> I mean ... he can't possibly be serious.
> >>
> >> Can he?
> > Of course he can.
> > Speeds over Copper now rival and exceed those over the Aussie NBN
> > specified fibre.
> > And thirty billion is cheap.
>
> thirty billion is cheap?  Even when it achieves only what we've achieved
> for broadband so far without the NBN?  But 26 Billion for the NBN is
> wasting government money?
>
> > But what I want to know is - what will
> > happen tot he copper when we stasrt getting repititious EMP's ?
> > At least the fibre (not the switches, but the transport physical fibre
> > layer) is EMP proof.
>
> Only one of the many advantages of fibre.  The main I would think would be
> that is is virtually maintenance free compared with copper.  Not to mention
> that the TNBN requires laying of yet more last mile connections, only this
> time more copper.  How is this possibly cheaper?
>
> > Possibly an aspect of the NBN planning that the Libs havent considered.
> > I'm guessing that when the first (next - we have already had three minor
> > ones this year in high scintillation areas -e.g.: Macquarie Island,
> > Darwin and Weipa;) Carrington effect occurrences happen, the libs will
> > rethink their policy quick smart.
> >
> > signed
> >
> > F**k the hamster.... Radiodurans SSB s1 6Krad proofed Tom.
> >
> >
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