[LINK] Turnbull's NBN

[John Mann]

Hi,

Here is a report that says running a FTTH network is 20.4% cheaper (doesn't
specify v. ADSL or Cable).

http://www.lightwaveonline.com/articles/2013/04/ftth-drives-opex-savings-reports-ftth-council-study.html?cmpid=EnlDirectApril42013
---
FTTH drives opex savings reports FTTH Council study

April 4, 2013
Lightwave Staff

While Verizon has long touted operational expenditure (opex) savings as a
rationale for its FiOS fiber to the home (FTTH) deployments, smaller
carriers also have seen similar benefits, according to a recent study by
RVA LLC for the Fiber to the Home Council Americas. Small and medium-sized
carriers in North America say they’ve seen an average opex savings of 20.4%
annually, the study reports
...
---

Other numbers from the report are encouraging too: in North America, 22.7
million homes with access to FTTH (+17%), 9.7 million subscribers (+20%),
44.8% take-up rate.

===

Turning the numbers around, *if* Turnbull's cheaper to build NBN is 20%
more expensive to operate than FTTH,
then how many years does it take to wipe out the installation cost savings?

    John


On 9 April 2013 17:03, Jim Birch <planetjim at gmail.com> wrote:

> I want to see a 25 year comparative costing on three options.
>
> 1.  The current FTTP NBN
> 2.  The FTTN NBN with maintenance of the copper for 25 years.
> 3.  The FTTN NBN with maintenance of the copper for say 15 years and then
> the re-installation of FTTP NBN when it becomes blindingly obvious to
> everyone that that's what should have been done in the first place.
>
>
>
>
> On 9 April 2013 15:36, Kim Holburn <kim.holburn at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > On 2013/Apr/09, at 2:21 PM, tomk wrote:
> >
> > > On 9/04/2013 12:21 p.m., Frank O'Connor wrote:
> > >> ... Seems pretty much like Turnbull's Australian Republic.
> > >>
> > >> Remember that? The Republic you have where the politicians are the
> > one's who get to appoint the President, and the electorate has nothing to
> > do with it? The one that the 60-65% of the Australian people who were in
> > favour of a Republic couldn't and wouldn't vote for? That Australian
> > Republic?
> > >>
> > >> Now he proposes an FttN NBN that costs $30 billion, that offers the
> > same performance for 90% of the Australian public as they're currently
> > getting over copper, that has maintenance overheads with its VDSL design
> > that will in all likelihood cause operating costs to blow out like crazy,
> > that means that the satellite subscribers will effectively be getting a
> > better AVERAGE bandwidth than fixed line subscribers (I want satellite
> now
> > ... unless you can ensure that the VDSL node is right outside my door,
> > Malcolm) ... and did I mention that this is gonna cost $30 billion?
> > >>
> > >> FOR WHAT? I mean, you could simply not spend anything, forego the NBN
> > completely, and 90% of subscribers wouldn't know the difference.
> > >>
> > >> This is a late April Fools Day Turnbull press release, right?
> > >>
> > >> I mean ... he can't possibly be serious.
> > >>
> > >> Can he?
> > > Of course he can.
> > > Speeds over Copper now rival and exceed those over the Aussie NBN
> > > specified fibre.
> > > And thirty billion is cheap.
> >
> > thirty billion is cheap?  Even when it achieves only what we've achieved
> > for broadband so far without the NBN?  But 26 Billion for the NBN is
> > wasting government money?
> >
> > > But what I want to know is - what will
> > > happen tot he copper when we stasrt getting repititious EMP's ?
> > > At least the fibre (not the switches, but the transport physical fibre
> > > layer) is EMP proof.
> >
> > Only one of the many advantages of fibre.  The main I would think would
> be
> > that is is virtually maintenance free compared with copper.  Not to
> mention
> > that the TNBN requires laying of yet more last mile connections, only
> this
> > time more copper.  How is this possibly cheaper?
> >
> > > Possibly an aspect of the NBN planning that the Libs havent considered.
> > > I'm guessing that when the first (next - we have already had three
> minor
> > > ones this year in high scintillation areas -e.g.: Macquarie Island,
> > > Darwin and Weipa;) Carrington effect occurrences happen, the libs will
> > > rethink their policy quick smart.
> > >
> > > signed
> > >
> > > F**k the hamster.... Radiodurans SSB s1 6Krad proofed Tom.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =======
> > > Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found.
> > > (Email Guard: 9.1.0.2894, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.21080)
> > > http://www.pctools.com/
> > > =======
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Link mailing list
> > > Link at mailman.anu.edu.au
> > > http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link
> >
> > --
> > Kim Holburn
> > IT Network & Security Consultant
> > T: +61 2 61402408  M: +61 404072753
> > mailto:kim at holburn.net  aim://kimholburn
> > skype://kholburn - PGP Public Key on request
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Link mailing list
> > Link at mailman.anu.edu.au
> > http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Link mailing list
> Link at mailman.anu.edu.au
> http://mailman.anu.edu.au/mailman/listinfo/link
>