[LINK] Turnbull's NBN

[tomk]

On 9/04/2013 3:06 p.m., Kim Holburn wrote:
> On 2013/Apr/09, at 2:21 PM, tomk wrote:
>
>> On 9/04/2013 12:21 p.m., Frank O'Connor wrote:
>>> ... Seems pretty much like Turnbull's Australian Republic.
>>>
>>> Remember that? The Republic you have where the politicians are the one's who get to appoint the President, and the electorate has nothing to do with it? The one that the 60-65% of the Australian people who were in favour of a Republic couldn't and wouldn't vote for? That Australian Republic?
>>>
>>> Now he proposes an FttN NBN that costs $30 billion, that offers the same performance for 90% of the Australian public as they're currently getting over copper, that has maintenance overheads with its VDSL design that will in all likelihood cause operating costs to blow out like crazy, that means that the satellite subscribers will effectively be getting a better AVERAGE bandwidth than fixed line subscribers (I want satellite now ... unless you can ensure that the VDSL node is right outside my door, Malcolm) ... and did I mention that this is gonna cost $30 billion?
>>>
>>> FOR WHAT? I mean, you could simply not spend anything, forego the NBN completely, and 90% of subscribers wouldn't know the difference.
>>>
>>> This is a late April Fools Day Turnbull press release, right?
>>>
>>> I mean ... he can't possibly be serious.
>>>
>>> Can he?
>> Of course he can.
>> Speeds over Copper now rival and exceed those over the Aussie NBN
>> specified fibre.
>> And thirty billion is cheap.
> thirty billion is cheap?  Even when it achieves only what we've achieved for broadband so far without the NBN?  But 26 Billion for the NBN is wasting government money?
I was being moronically sarcastic. (As only I can...)

Malcolm has been slanging off at the high cost of the Rudd/Conroy plan, 
yet he comes out with a price 7 bill higher....

Reality is that infrastructure costs. And copper these days is as 
expensive as multi strand fibre (silicon).
Probably something to do with the super tax... oops.

>> But what I want to know is - what will
>> happen tot he copper when we stasrt getting repititious EMP's ?
>> At least the fibre (not the switches, but the transport physical fibre
>> layer) is EMP proof.
> Only one of the many advantages of fibre.  The main I would think would be that is is virtually maintenance free compared with copper.  Not to mention that the TNBN requires laying of yet more last mile connections, only this time more copper.  How is this possibly cheaper?

Well, it's not designed to be cheaper - it's designed to sound 
reasonable to the baby-boomers, who will be the only ones at the next 
election voting booths. Todays X's and Y's just don't believe in 
Government anymore. Especially incorporated delisted american 
corporation governments.
The baby boomers on the hand live in a la la land of yesteryear with 
heads in the sand.... it's all good... politics really matters and 
channel seven is better than channel 9, and we have to vote so we should 
vote for malcolm he sounds like he's talking sense.

Folks, the sun is moving to northern climes, so we might just squeeze in 
an election, but I feel somehow that Sydney-siders won't be voting this 
year. That means that the Libs will get back in.

Watch the left hand ladies and gentlemen, ignore the right hand, all the 
magic is done with the left hand.
Don't look up... watch the left hand. Turn off that scintillometer.. you 
don't need that in here, we're doing real politics, just watch the left 
hand.





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