[LINK] An Overhead NBN

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On 7 Nov 2013, at 14:01, Marghanita da Cruz <marghanita at ramin.com.au> wrote:

But all those poles means chopping down all those trees and they need those to
implement Direct Action!


rachel

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> 
> Jim Birch wrote:
> <snip>
>> I seems to me that the main reason they want to go above ground is so they
>> can claim to have done something different to the Labor NBN.  And perhaps
>> to fulfil some kind of vague public-goods-are-crap ideological need.  I'd
>> like to see a lifetime cost analysis.
> 
> NBN under the last government was doing trials. While in Fremantly 
> recently, what appeared to be the western end of the NBN cable was lying on 
> the ground next to a footpath.
> 
> Depending on what's under the ground (existing channel), granite, 
> sandstone, clay or sand all impact on the cost. Stringing on existing poles 
> or through existing conduits is a no brainer - the question is whether the 
> state governments, who own the poles charge more than Telstra, who sold(?) 
> the conduits.
> 
> I seem to recall Townsville was above ground and ...it is Australia’s most 
> NBN-ready city
> 09 August 2013
> http://www.nbnco.com.au/about-us/media/news/townsville-is-most-nbn-ready-city-in-australia.html
> 
> Below is a list of communities where NBN services are available and suburbs 
> where build has commenced.
> http://www.nbnco.com.au/when-do-i-get-it/about-the-rollout/communities-in-the-rollout.html
> 
> There is probably an anlysis somewhere.
> 
> Marghanita
> 
> Jim Birch wrote:
>> In addition to adverse event frequency, I'd be interested to see know if
>> there is any data on llife expectancy above and below the ground.  Also,
>> why do we want electricity below ground?  Don't the same reasons, amenity,
>> ugliness, safety, reliability, etc, all apply?  Suspending the fibre on
>> electricity poles makes it even harder to put the electricity below ground
>> 
>> I seems to me that the main reason they want to go above ground is so they
>> can claim to have done something different to the Labor NBN.  And perhaps
>> to fulfil some kind of vague public-goods-are-crap ideological need.  I'd
>> like to see a lifetime cost analysis.
>> 
>> - Jim
>> 
>> 
>>> On 7 November 2013 11:07, <stephen at melbpc.org.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Seems a good idea to me. If not an underground FTTH NBN, perhaps an arial
>>> FTTH NBN? It appears a much better idea than any idiot FTTN TopHat system.
>>> 
>>> Overall, wouldn't powerline NBN FTTH optical be cheaper than FTTN systems?
>>> 
>>> And if the power companies installed the fibre on th