[LINK] An Overhead NBN

[Marghanita da Cruz]

Hi Rachel,

They finally replaced a couple of poles in my street (the top was
splintering) - the guy who did it, explained to me it was a "green" pole,
referring to the colour of the treated pine.

While they were replacing the pole, they tied the electricity cable to the
tree...
It would be much safer to do this with Data Cables..see coconut palms
poles at: http://ramin.com.au/goa/web-card4.html

There is a marking on each pole - telling you the kind of timber it is -
most new poles would be quick growing softwood either eucalypt or pinus
radiata...after all they used up all the hardwood for telegraph poles the
railways and line the streets.

Woodblocking...
http://history.cityofsydney.nsw.gov.au/sydneystreets/How_to_Build_a_Street/Woodblocking/default.html

> Sherlock Holmes and the Mystery of London’s Forgotten Australian Timber Roads
http://www.roadswerenotbuiltforcars.com/wood/

In Perth, they seemed to have concrete poles.

Marghanita

gr0ve wrote:
> On 7 Nov 2013, at 14:01, Marghanita da Cruz <marghanita at ramin.com.au> wrote:
> 
> But all those poles means chopping down all those trees and they need those to
> implement Direct Action!
> 
> 
> rachel
> 
> --
> <r.polanskis at uws.edu.au> 
> <grove at zeta.org.au>
> 
> 
>> Jim Birch wrote:
>> <snip>
>>> I seems to me that the main reason they want to go above ground is so they
>>> can claim to have done something different to the Labor NBN.  And perhaps
>>> to fulfil some kind of vague public-goods-are-crap ideological need.  I'd
>>> like to see a lifetime cost analysis.
>> NBN under the last government was doing trials. While in Fremantly 
>> recently, what appeared to be the western end of the NBN cable was lying on 
>> the ground next to a footpath.
>>
>> Depending on what's under the ground (existing channel), granite, 
>> sandstone, clay or sand all impact on the cost. Stringing on existing poles 
>> or through existing conduits is a no brainer - the question is whether the 
>> state governments, who own the poles charge more than Telstra, who sold(?) 
>> the conduits.
>>
>> I seem to recall Townsville was above ground and ...it is Australia’s most 
>> NBN-ready city
>> 09 August 2013
>> http://www.nbnco.com.au/about-us/media/news/townsville-is-most-nbn-ready-city-in-australia.html
>>
>> Below is a list of communities where NBN services are available and suburbs 
>> where build has commenced.
>> http://www.nbnco.com.au/when-do-i-get-it/about-the-rollout/communities-in-the-rollout.html
>>
>> There is probably an anlysis somewhere.
>>
>> Marghanita
>>
>> Jim Birch wrote:
>>> In addition to adverse event frequency, I'd be interested to see know if
>>> there is any data on llife expectancy above and below the ground.  Also,
>>> why do we want electricity below ground?  Don't the same reasons, amenity,
>>> ugliness, safety, reliability, etc, all apply?  Suspending the fibre on
>>> electricity poles makes it even harder to put the electricity below ground
>>>
>>> I seems to me that the main reason they want to go above ground is so they
>>> can claim to have done something different to the Labor NBN.  And perhaps
>>> to fulfil some kind of vague public-goods-are-crap ideological need.  I'd
>>> like to see a lifetime cost analysis.
>>>
>>> - Jim
>>>
>>>
>>>> On 7 November 2013 11:07, <stephen at melbpc.org.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Seems a good idea to me. If not an underground FTTH NBN, perhaps an arial
>>>> FTTH NBN? It appears a much better idea than any idiot FTTN TopHat system.
>>>>
>>>> Overall, wouldn't powerline NBN FTTH optical be cheaper than FTTN systems?
>>>>
>>>> And if the power companies installed the fibre on th
> 


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