[LINK] Wyvern

Roger Clarke Roger.Clarke at xamax.com.au
Wed Aug 13 20:29:29 AEST 2014

I'm a long-lapsed programmer.  (COBOL USASI-68 / ANSI 74 anyone? 
Fortran II and IV - whatever *did* happen to III?  Waddya mean F-77 
??  Declaration:  I lost it somewhere a little while after Pascal).

But I'm definitely with Karl.

I'd have thought that a melange of evils like Basic this, Basic that 
('poison for the mind' was it, Edsgar?), C+++ (bastard child of 
multiple fathers), et al., would have multiplied evils to the point 
of not just monstrous human confusion, but an ALU (does it still 
stand for arithmetic-logic unit?) convulsed with laughter.

I'll cheerfully bring a good bottle of wine to share with someone who 
can offer a convincing demonstration of multi-language code that 
would demonstrate multi-dimensional orthogonal complexity.  Okay, I 
made that up, but I'm sure it *could* mean something.

I'd start with the COBOL ALTER verb myself, but it's probably out-of-bounds.
Mmmm, now what were TYPE 66s and 77s again?


At 7:02 -0300 13/8/14, Fernando Cassia wrote:
>On Wed, Aug 13, 2014 at 5:55 AM, Stephen Loosley <stephenloosley at outlook.com
>>  wrote:
>>  Wyvern is not yet fully engineered, Omar noted, but is an open source
>>  project that is ready for experimental use by early adopters. More
>>  information is available at http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~aldrich/wyvern/.
>I attended a presentation by IBM back in 1996 or thereabouts with one of
>the guys in charge of their back-then VisuaAge IDE (which included
>VisualAge for Basic, VisualAge for Java, VisualAge for C++ and VisualAge
>for Smalltalk).
>At some point he said that since the back then was the same, eventually
>"the idea is to eventually integrate all in the same IDE, and allow a team
>of programmers to collaborate on a single project, each writing in their
>language of choice, and the compiler/IDE taking care of the differences and
>assembling the final product".
>OR SO I remember, it was a long time ago.
>Obviously it NEVER HAPPENED, and VisualAge is dead now. Which is a real
>shame, because VisualAge for Basic had the potential to become the MS
>VisualBasic killer... (being cross platform too, supporting Windows, OS/2
>and Unix as targets).
>Speaking of which, does the above support BASIC? ;)
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