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Fri Apr 25 14:08:54 AEST 2025

> On Fri, Apr 25, 2025 at 1:41 PM Roger Clarke <Roger.Clarke at xamax.com.au 
> <mailto:Roger.Clarke at xamax.com.au>> wrote:
> 
>     [ You too can sign up for surveillance, storage and sale of your vital
>     signs, both in batch / bulk / retrospectively and in real time.
> 
>     [ Needless to say, location and tracking comes free to you, but charged
>     to the ear-bud service-provider's many clients. ]

On 25/4/2025 13:48, Antony Barry wrote:
> This reminded me of a quotation so I asked Perplexity to track it down -
> The phrase "privacy is dead. Get used to it" has been attributed to ...

Ah, but even Perplexity isn't very good at reflecting the cut and thrust 
of meme development, e.g.

 > Are you an optimist insofar as privacy surviving? There are those who 
are already speaking of privacy in terms of it being dead. What is your 
response to this?    (8 May 2013)
 > http://www.rogerclarke.com/DV/DV13.html#RTFToC9
 > There are a number of variants of the 'privacy is dead' meme (Clarke 
2003, 2009c): ...
 > There are straightforward responses to all of these schools of 
thought. ...

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> ...  several prominent technology figures, but the most widely recognized 
> origin is Scott McNealy, co-founder and then-CEO of Sun Microsystems. In 
> 1999, McNealy famously stated, "You have zero privacy anyway. Get over 
> it," during a press event, which has since been paraphrased and widely 
> cited as "privacy is dead. Get used to it"[3][1].
> 
> Mark Zuckerberg, CEO of Facebook, has also been associated with the 
> sentiment that privacy is no longer a social norm, and some sources 
> claim he said "privacy is dead, get used to it" around 2010[2]. However, 
> the original and most direct attribution of the phrase in this form is 
> to McNealy in 1999.
> 
> There are also references to the phrase being used by other technology 
> leaders, including claims that a Google CEO said it[5], but the most 
> verifiable and widely cited instance remains Scott McNealy's statement 
> in 1999[3][1].
> 
> Sources
> [1] Privacy is dead - get over it. | The IT Skeptic 
> http://itskeptic.org/node/439.html <http://itskeptic.org/node/439.html>
> [2] Tea Uglow on Doubt, Life Pre–Transition, and the Shaping Power of 
> ... 
> https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2023/10/25/tea-uglow-on-doubt-life-pretransition-and-the-shaping-power-of-technology <https://www.theosthinktank.co.uk/comment/2023/10/25/tea-uglow-on-doubt-life-pretransition-and-the-shaping-power-of-technology>
> [3] If Privacy Is Dead, What Can We Do Instead? 
> http://technologyandsociety.org/if-privacy-is-dead-what-can-we-do-instead/ <http://technologyandsociety.org/if-privacy-is-dead-what-can-we-do-instead/>
> [4] Turns Out Paul Graham Was Right About Privacy - LinkedIn 
> https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20130328203014-1791094-turns-out-paul-graham-was-right-about-privacy <https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/20130328203014-1791094-turns-out-paul-graham-was-right-about-privacy>
> [5] Every Machine Can Be Used To Watch You. Interested in Privacy? 
> https://readwrite.com/every_machine_around_you_is_watching_you_intereste/ <https://readwrite.com/every_machine_around_you_is_watching_you_intereste/>
> [6] Privacy is dead, get over it! 1 Information privacy and the dream of 
> a ... https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600830802472990 
> <https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/13600830802472990>
> [7] Privacy is Dead! A History | WireWheel 
> https://wirewheel.io/blog/privacy-is-dead/ 
> <https://wirewheel.io/blog/privacy-is-dead/>
> [8] "Privacy is dead, get over it" [updated] - DSHR's Blog 
> https://blog.dshr.org/2017/05/privacy-is-dead-get-over-it.html 
> <https://blog.dshr.org/2017/05/privacy-is-dead-get-over-it.html>
> [9] Privacy Is Dead -- Long Live Privacy - Forbes 
> https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbestechcouncil/2019/10/21/privacy-is-dead-long-live-privacy/ <https://www.forbes.com/councils/forbestechcouncil/2019/10/21/privacy-is-dead-long-live-privacy/>
> [10] Privacy is Dead: The Birth of Social Media Background Checks 
> https://www.ssrn.com/abstract=2020790 
> <https://www.ssrn.com/abstract=2020790>
> [11] Facebook's Zuckerberg Says The Age of Privacy Is Over 
> https://www.nytimes.com/external/readwriteweb/2010/01/10/10readwriteweb-facebooks-zuckerberg-says-the-age-of-privac-82963.html <https://www.nytimes.com/external/readwriteweb/2010/01/10/10readwriteweb-facebooks-zuckerberg-says-the-age-of-privac-82963.html>
> [12] 6 Reasons Why Data Privacy is Dead - Identity Management Institute® 
> https://identitymanagementinstitute.org/6-reasons-why-data-privacy-is-dead/ <https://identitymanagementinstitute.org/6-reasons-why-data-privacy-is-dead/>
> [13] Privacy Is Dead And Most People Really Don't Care - Forbes 
> https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilsahota/2020/10/14/privacy-is-dead-and-most-people-really-dont-care/ <https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilsahota/2020/10/14/privacy-is-dead-and-most-people-really-dont-care/>
> [14] Tim McBride: Learning to live in world of suspicion - NZ Herald 
> https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/tim-mcbride-learning-to-live-in-world-of-suspicion/U7IHVSXEKNMOG7MM4GRYYRTYKM/ <https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/tim-mcbride-learning-to-live-in-world-of-suspicion/U7IHVSXEKNMOG7MM4GRYYRTYKM/>
> [15] Privacy is not dead; it's powerful - IAPP 
> https://iapp.org/news/a/privacy-is-not-dead-its-powerful 
> <https://iapp.org/news/a/privacy-is-not-dead-its-powerful>
> [16] Microsoft: From QDOS to QMA in less than 35 years - 
> Shtetl-Optimized https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=1471 
> <https://scottaaronson.blog/?p=1471>
> [17] Privacy is dead, long live privacy! Two diverging perspectives ... 
> - OSF https://osf.io/ugvft/ <https://osf.io/ugvft/>
> [18] nanog: Re: user-relative names - was:[Re: Yahoo and IPv6] 
> https://seclists.org/nanog/2011/May/585 
> <https://seclists.org/nanog/2011/May/585>
> [19] The Next HOPE Conference Wrap Up — John Huntington 
> https://www.controlgeek.net/blog/2010/7/18/the-next-hope-conference-wrap-up.html <https://www.controlgeek.net/blog/2010/7/18/the-next-hope-conference-wrap-up.html>
> [20] Privacy Is Dead, Long Live Privacy! - Hogrefe eContent 
> https://econtent.hogrefe.com/doi/10.1027/1864-1105/a000357 
> <https://econtent.hogrefe.com/doi/10.1027/1864-1105/a000357>
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