What's this phenomenon?

[Hela, Eric]

John,

Not really, I use 'as' for the 3rd meaning in my pidgin.  Others might use
'has'.

I up in the highlands of PNG, 'Hailans' is commonly used to refer to
'Highlands' I guess Ailans for the similar reference is rare and in fact
haven't heard one using it. I use 'Hailans' for Highlands and 'Ailan' for
Island.

The use of 's' for plural form in pidgin is not existence in many
occurrences but 'hailans' seem to be one of the exemptions.  I don't know
why...........

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-----Original Message-----
From: John Burton [mailto:buzzybell at yahoo.com]
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2001 6:42 AM
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Subject: What's this phenomenon?


Eric

What's this phenomenon? After a century of 'as',
'asde' etc, we are now hearing 'has', 'hasde' etc. Why
the new 'h'?

This is quite widespread. I was in downtown Lae last
year when a newsreader on Nau-FM read an item about
the violence in Honiara where a Papua New Guinea had
been killed and his head cut off and taken away by
militants. He clearly said the man's relatives had
appealed for the return of '... et bilong hem'.

Are there are any other distinguished meanings as Eric
suggests for 'as/has' (weren't you suggesting 'has'
for the 3rd meaning, Eric)?

John Burton

--- "Hela, Eric" <erich at morobegold.com.pg> wrote:
> as/has -  has number of meanings in pidgin:
> 1. refers to the body part(buttock) of animals or
> human
> 2. the root of something (kamautim wantaim has/as
> bilong em - means to say,
> "remove it with the root")
> 3. the aim/objective/reason of/for doing something
> (eg - wanem as/has bilong
> dispela kibung? - means to say, "what is the aim of
> this meeting?")
> 
> "As" and "Has" are used interchangeably but some
> people tend to use "As"
> when referring to the 2nd and the 3rd meaning above
> while using "Has" to
> refer to the 1st.  Eg.  Last night a pastor was
> preaching at a funeral
> gathering and used the following phrase, " Has tru
> blong man i stap laip em
> long givim biknem long God papa" - meaning - "the
> reason for men being alive
> is to give praise to father God".  
>  
> Eric Hela 
> Morobe Consolidated Goldfields
> Wau, Morobe Province. Papua New Guinea.
> phone: 675 474 6208; fax: 675 474 6344
> mailto:erich at morobegold.com.pg
> 
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