[LINK] Vista and Do Not Record broadcast flags

[Richard Chirgwin]

Anthony Hornby wrote:
> ">Quite simply,
>   
>> why would I rearrange the house or run cables just to hook the TV to the
>> computer, when I can put the recorder where the TV is?"
>>     
>
> You don't have to, and you can. There are plenty of near silent
> computer options to choose from in a variety of form factors that are
> fine as media centres. And you can get them with cases that look just
> like a bit of high-end Hi-Fi gear if you want to.
>
> ">PC-based Media
>   
>> Centres, whether Apple or Microsoft or Linux, have a specific target
>> market: people for whom getting this sort of crap to work creates a
>> sense of achievement which serves as a surrogate for the ability to do
>> things that are actually useful ..."
>>     
>
> Personally I would have one PC setup at home for storing all my files,
> music, video etc anyway and yes it is a little more complexity to make
> this a media centre but I prefer to have one technology to manage and
> the flexibility to add features as I need them. 
Well: My remark about media centres was not an attack on media centre 
users per se; I was explaining why I don't think DNR flagging will make 
any difference to the success / failure of Vista.

Regarding personal preference; that kind of aligns with my point. The 
personal preference of a computer enthusiast / hobbyist is perfectly 
legitimate but it doesn't reflect the mass market. Humans are apt to 
fall into "ecco homo" thinking very easily, and it's a hard habit to break.
> As to useful - unless
> you have no hobbies or interests that aren't all actively saving the
> planet or building better communities - how about we agree that
> everyone wastes some time on something or another ...
>   
Yep. I waste time on wood. I don't, however, assume that just because I 
like building my wife's new kitchen from scratch rather than from a 
flat-pack, that this reflects the default position of Joe Sixpack.

RC
> I am not ramming media centres down anyone's throat and may decide to
> go for a black box in the future.It is my choice to decide how I spend
> what amounts to a little of my time. Now my media center is setup I
> actually spend very little time fiddling and most of the time using
> it, as does my wife.
>
> I meets my needs for now.
>
> Just my 2c.
>
> Regards Anthony
>
> On Wed, Jun 18, 2008 at 7:23 AM, Richard Chirgwin
> <rchirgwin at ozemail.com.au> wrote:
>   
>> I don't think the "loss of time shifting" is significant in this case.
>> The actual adoption of Windows-based broadcast TV recording among
>> mainstream users is pitifully small. It's easier in every way for Joe
>> Sixpack to buy a black box hard disk recorder.
>>
>> Hence, although in many ways I think Vista is a dead duck anyway, DNR
>> flagging won't change its future one way or the other...
>>
>> I can't get the excitement about media centres, myself. Quite simply,
>> why would I rearrange the house or run cables just to hook the TV to the
>> computer, when I can put the recorder where the TV is? PC-based Media
>> Centres, whether Apple or Microsoft or Linux, have a specific target
>> market: people for whom getting this sort of crap to work creates a
>> sense of achievement which serves as a surrogate for the ability to do
>> things that are actually useful ...
>>
>> RC
>>
>> Rick Welykochy wrote:
>>     
>>> stephen at melbpc.org.au wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>> Vista is Honoring the 'Do Not Record' Broadcast Flag
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> With each upgrade to Mac OS X, I get the feeling that Apple is complying
>>>>> more and more with the wishes of the entertainment moguls ..
>>>>>
>>>>> Do we have any examples of the "Do Not Record" flag in Aussie?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>> the loss of (digital) time shifting will be significant for everyone?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>> Has there been any copy protection scheme ever that has not been cracked?
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> Excellent questions
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> I'll posit some guesstimate answers.
>>>
>>> Do we have any examples of the "Do Not Record" flag in Aussie?
>>> No. This country won't do it for another 10 years.
>>>
>>> Has there been any copy protection scheme ever that has not been cracked?
>>> No.
>>>
>>>
>>> cheers
>>> rickw
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
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