[LINK] ACMA Internet Filter List Leaked
Leah Manta
link at fly.to
Thu Mar 19 20:35:47 AEDT 2009
At 05:53 19/03/2009, Tom Koltai wrote:
> > At 01:58 PM 19/03/2009, George Bray wrote:
> > >WikiLeaks (if you can get to it)
> > ><http://www.wikileaks.org>
> >
> > Nope. Doesn't connect. Someone's put up a block, it seems.
> >
>This is ridiculous, scandalous and downright rotten - So tell me again
>linkers....
It's worse than that. I can't even trace from Amsterdam.
Does nothing:
Traceroute from RRC00 to secure.wikileaks.org.
traceroute to secure.wikileaks.org (88.80.13.160), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
There is some BGP
BGP routing table entry for 88.80.0.0/19
Paths: (12 available, best #3, table Default-IP-Routing-Table)
Advertised to non peer-group peers:
195.28.164.125
9304 15412 3257 29518 30912 33837
218.189.6.2 from 218.189.6.2 (218.189.6.2)
Origin IGP, localpref 100, valid, external
Community: 9304:14 9304:171 9304:402 9304:17122 65171:15412
Last update: Wed Mar 18 00:29:08 2009
Actually it looks like no matter where I try and source from, it just
'doesn't exist' even though it resolves in DNS.
The DNS servers aren't on the same subnets.
I've had a few people around the world in really strange places check
and everything destination oriented times out.
I've even tried using that *shhhh* secret network of encrypted random
egress points.
OK now I'm getting
No such domain
Your request for
<https://secure.wikileaks.org:443/>https://secure.wikileaks.org:443/
could not be fulfilled, because the domain name secure.wikileaks.org
could not be resolved.
This is often a temporary failure, so you might just
<https://secure.wikileaks.org:443/>try again.
>Why is it that we dont have a First Ammendment ?
Well I don't think this issue is exclusive to Australia. So an
Australian First Amendment isn't going to magically change much really.
When you have Free Speech in law, you have greater covert operations
in practice.
>Actually perhaps its because we don't have a constitution drafted by
>the people.
Well that's not entirely true. The Australian Constitution was kinda
drafted by 'the people' - at least their representatives and for a
Prison Colony of Great Britain, it was at the time, fairly good,
except it gives no rights to the people, just to elect members of
parliament, for parliament to elect judges and of course, well,
that's about it.
It's in effect about 100 years behind the realities of the world and
until it's changed to reflect the EU's Human Rights and General Laws,
it's all a moote point.
>Now there's a worthwhile thought..... First politician the puts up a
>Blogg website for the draft of the future constitution of the Republic
>of Australia (Grin) will surely get voted in next time round......
Highly unlikley.
>OK because I just had a good three hour lunch AND I'm in a good
>mood..... Here's one freebie for filter proponents.....
>
>http://web.archive.org/web/20071212000515/www.wikileaks.org/wiki/Categor
>y:Australia
>
>Anything else is $250 per hour, and unfortunately there's a long waiting
>list.
Must be why you aren't making $250 an hour to find out dated info :)
>Today only - for Linkers only that need access to wikileaks - email me
>offlist to obtain free alternative instructions
>Hint - Alternative access requires a cache server not located in
>Australia.
Tom, even that isn't going to work, at least not now. I have tried
servers in South Africa, Germany, India, USA, Canada, Ukraine,
Russia, Japan, Chile, CZ, France, Italy, UK ...
And a cached server has a very low chance of having the 'leaked
australian url' list that isn't a leaked list or ACMA URLS (by their
own admission) anyway.
At 05:53 19/03/2009, Tom Koltai wrote:
>So Im afraid my next commercial rollout - wait for it - wait for it....
>Will be a mobile based service offering..... That will offer
>international gateways for ALL content via ubiquitous transparent global
>cache routing.
>
>This unfortunately obviates any attempt by any one country to filter
>anything.
Really? You seem to be about, ooooh, 10 years behind! There is
already a great resource that does just that! Used by Journalists
and Spies from all around the world.
What's even better is - it's FREE and people put up Nodes around the
world all the time. It can be a bit slow though :) Oh and it's
encrypted, quite well too. So if you run an encrypted VPN through
the network you get three layers of encryption!
>So Adrian, the good news is - filtering is a moot point - and you know
>it. Lets move on..... Because I don't actually think Senator Conroy
>listens to or reads link......
Ha! A LOT of people read Link :)
At 07:12 19/03/2009, Kim Holburn wrote:
>The site is down or not routable from outside Australia.
>
>Happens a bit to wikileaks. It offends a lot of people for a lot of
>different reasons. There are a number of different DNS names like
>wikileaks.com to name just one.
not helpful though:
;; ANSWER SECTION:
wikileaks.com. 600 IN DNAME wikileaks.org.
secure.wikileaks.com. 0 IN CNAME secure.wikileaks.org.
secure.wikileaks.org. 40 IN A 88.80.13.160
Robin, red your posting, tracing and investigation, you got further
than me, but you started earlier than I did :)
It's the true meaning of an Internet Black Hole!
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