[LINK] Carrier IQ

[Scott Howard]

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Richard Chirgwin
<rchirgwin at ozemail.com.au>wrote:

> 1. Issue and then withdraw legal threats?
>

I'd guess because that what's their legal council recommended they do in an
effort to avoid the bad press of even the suggestion that they log data/etc
got out - regardless of whether it's true or not.



> 2. State that it could not capture real time data when it can? (the "not
> real time" position was maintained right up until the video was posted,
> showing real-time capture.
>

At best this is semantics.  Firefox "captures" every key I type - including
all of my website passwords. Thus clearly Firefox and the entire firefox
community is evil.  Right?  There's a big difference between "capture" and
"log and report back to a 3rd party".

>From their press release they stated that their software :
*    Does not record your keystrokes.
    Does not provide tracking tools.
    Does not inspect or report on the content of your communications, such
as the content of emails and SMSs.
    Does not provide real-time data reporting to any customer.
    Finally, we do not sell Carrier IQ data to third parties.
*
There has been absolutely ZERO proof from anyone that they do any of those
things. (Logging keystrokes to the operating systems debug log when put
into debug mode does NOT count as "recording" IMHO)


If the data logging were innocent, why did we also see a rush of
> carriers in Australia and New Zealand saying "we don't touch this stuff"?
>

To distance themselves from the bad press?



> Finally, if it were innocent, why is it difficult to find?
>

Because it's a system-level application?  I'm sure there's dozens of
processes on any smart phone which are 'hidden" in some way or other as
they aren't something that the user is expected to interface with.

  Scott