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Jevan Pipitone discussion-email-lists at jevan.com.au
Thu Sep 5 20:53:06 AEST 2019

> A personal Babel Fish isn't the answer IMHO.

A babel fish electronic device might work to translate one or two sentences, but won't work to translate an entire 2 hour university lecture.

If there are sufficient numbers, having an entire course run using the chinese or indian (or whatever) language could be worhtwhile.

Alternatively, someone could be paid to make lecture written transcripts in all of the languages that students might be familiar with. Transcripts of tutorials could also be done, or in addition to a tutor there could be a multi-language person translator in each tutorial that can assist any of the international students with their understanding so they can participate in the tutorial. Or, specific additional tutorials to be run by a tutor in a particular language, could be scheduled.

Presently students with disabilities can have special conditions during an exam which can for example be, to have a scribe to write for them. Why not have special conditions for international students to use another language for the session's communication, with a translator person provided by the university during the session for any languages that are required?

I don't know whether the current position of universities requiring english is good enough for international students, and maybe universities would attract more international students if they better caterered for all of the possible languages.


On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 18:18:38 +1000
David <dlochrin at key.net.au> wrote:

> On 5/09/2019 3:24 pm, JLWhitaker wrote:
> > So going back to the cost of educating an int'l student - how does that get charged if the student is fluent in English rather than one who is not?
> The UTS English Language entry requirements are spelled out at https://www.uts.edu.au/future-students/international/study-abroad-and-exchange-students/entry-requirements-and-costs and they are as follows:
> -----------
> o   An English language proficiency level in accordance with the UTS English language requirements, if English is not your first language. You are required to submit results from an English language test or program to satisfy the UTS English language proficiency requirement for the course you are applying. English language proficiency test scores are recognised by UTS provided they were obtained less than two years prior to application at UTS.
> o   If you come from Austria, Denmark, France, Finland, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden or Switzerland, a mark of 75% or better in final High School English is considered equivalent.
> o   Students from Austria, Canada, Denmark, France, Finland, Germany, Netherlands, Norway, Sweden or Switzerland are also eligible to apply to UTS with a UTS English Language Proficiency Assessment (PDF, 166kB).
> o   If you do not meet the English language requirements for Study Abroad or Exchange, you may apply for our Australian Language and Culture Studies Program, which requires an English language proficiency level of IELTS 5.0 and above or equivalent.
> -----------
> Marking for submissions by software-engineering Project Teams included an assessment for good, clear, unambiguous English usage, and students who felt they were not proficient were advised to have their contributions edited appropriately.
> This is the way to do it in my view.  Apart from the importance of reliable communication in their subsequent professional lives, students without good English (at an Australian university) cannot be taught properly and can make difficulties for their peers in some circumstances.
> A personal Babel Fish isn't the answer IMHO.
> David L.
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